I spoke to Dave Kelley from LinkVana recently and the conversation was pretty enlightening to me.
I’ve also watched Jonathan Leger come out with some pretty good SEO products in the last year or so, too.
Dave runs LinkVana and has 8+ years experience as an SEO (AKA search engine optimization guy)
Jonathan Leger is also a well known SEO guy, too, but there are those who look down their nose at him despite the success of his many products, like 3 waylinks.net and the $7 script (which he sold off to another marketer)
What does LinkVana do?
LinkVana builds links to as many sites as you want at whatever pace you want ( up to 1 link/day)
LinkVana itself is a network of blogs that place posts you create ( or outsource for $2.00) on the network of blogs they have.
These blogs have a lot of link juice since they have decent PageRank and more incoming links than outgoing links.
Jonathan Leger’s 1waylinks.net program is similar in that it is also a network of blogs, but it allows for duplicate content to be placed on the network of blog sites acting as backlink posters to whatever links you desire.
With 1waylinks.net, you can get an incredible amount of links (hundreds) per month up to 3 sites or more, all depending on how you want to go about your linkbuilding campaign.
The difference between the 2 services and some information about linkbuilding you won’t read in too many places:
Not all links are created equal. A link from 100 sites that do not have much linkjuice isn’t worth the same, SEO-wise and rankings-wise as a link from one site, properly placed, as unique content, from a site with plenty of link juice and PageRank.
That’s the difference between Linkvana and 1waylinks.net.
You get a lot of links from dupe content from 1waylinks.net which I am/WAS a member of, and you also get a whole lot of links at once in a very short period of time, too.
That’s not necessarily a good thing because Google knows how old your site is…
Google knows how many links you’ve accrued over the lifespan of your site
Google can easily figure out the average number of links your site gets per month so when it sees your 2 year old site with 5 links go from 5 links to 175 links by the next month, it discounts and does not credit you for many of those links right away.
Over time you may get credit for some of those mass-gained links but usually you don’t get credit for all of them and the links themseleves will be sandboxed/not credited while some others will stick.
You want links that stick.
You want links that apply towards your site’s and site url SERPs.
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Dan, you are right on target here. I agree with your assessment of the differences between Linkvana and 1waylinks. They are both good in their own way.
You get what you pay for. I suppose that is why Linkvana is $100 more per month!
Right, LinkVana is still the best service I have used to date, but the expense is what will make it hard for people to stay on board.
I’m currently developing a guide to show people how to make $147.00/month in income/month by using LinkVana so that the attrition rate of signups isn’t so bad (4% of signups stay on board)
I would be interested in reading that guide! I am kicking around the idea of joining linkvana or 1waylinks to get links to my ebay affiliate sites. I have neglected link building to them and my income shows it. I just don’t like the idea of writing hundreds of blog posts to get links. I’m no writer!
Shoot me an email when you finish that guide. I can’t believe only 4% stay on board!!??!?!?!
Matt, the one thing that HAS to be in order for you prior to joining LinkVana is you need to know for sure that your sites will do better with increased SERPs and rankings, and that you have at least 5-7 sites that will benefit in such a way.
See, many people attain rankings but their sites and posts and pages don’t sell well, so their lack of a bonus or good convincing copy hurts them and it doesn’t matter if they’re ranked #1 or #10 if they won’t convert the traffic into sales.
So, you have to know for a fact that your site converts well and that the increased rankings will make for an increase in income to offset or make inconsequential the $147.00/month cost for LinkVana.
Thanks,
Dan
Thanks for the advice Dan. The sites I have in mind do already convert, well most of them anyway. The sites I want to use in the linkvana system are BANS (Build A Niche Store) sites, and they rely entirely on organic traffic. I do no other promotion for them. Not suprisingly, the higher they rank, the more I make. I have seen rankings drop in the last couple of months because I haven’t done any link building. Consequently, my earnings have dropped as well. Around 50% since September. The only question is, after using Linkvana for 2-3 months, will it pay for itself? I think so, but the only way to know for sure is to try it! But like I said before, I really don’t want to spend all my time writing blog posts for approximately 10 sites. I have bigger fish to fry
Yeah, good points about spending time writing those posts. You can also pay to have those posts written for you for $2.00 each, but that means you’re paying $2.00/backlink plus the 147/month.
However, what I did with this is I wrote all the posts for 1 site, for the month in one night, while the topic was in my head.
Then on another night I would write another month’s worth of backlink posts. Seeing as how I only had 6 sites that needed backlinks at the time, I spent about 4 hours/month getting backlinks to all the sites I had in the system.
With LV you don’t need a lot of links because they’re that powerful, so that’s important to remember, too.
When people join LV they think they need to get their 147 dollars worth ASAP by getting 1 new link a day, but 10 links a month might be good enough.
Another thing Dave told me was the the SEs know how many links a month or year your site is/was getting, so when people go from getting 1 link/month on average for history of site to 30 links/month, there can be a negative effect there.
Dave says to scale things up and increase the number of links you get once your site has aged and the average of link acqusition changes.
You DO want to change your link acquisition gradually so all links get credited.
When I started with LV, I saw bumps in the SERPS, with each new added link (the next day!) but when I got greedy and scaled things up, it had some negative effects.
Does this make sense?
BTW, I’d appreciate it if you order via my aff link if you go forward with LV
http://www.linkvana.com/aff.php?id=danielmcgonagle
BUT…. You want to email me at aikidoroll@gmail.com or Skype me at ID aikidoroll for something that will beat NextGenLinks, LinkVana, and 1WayLinks, and it’s cheaper than LinkVana by $47.00/month
Thanks Dan, I will keep you aff link in mind if I join.
You got it. The “thing” I was hinting at has to do with the fact that I already use 3 link-building services and considering neurolinker, too
would those 3 be 1waylinks, linkvana, and nextgen?
I currently only use 3waylinks (I get it for free because I bought into Jon Leger’s charity fund
)
I know I need to buy into another, just looking for the best option for me right now…
Roger that..
I spend about 200/month for Link building services for testing and variety, and have more available links coming to me than I can use properly right now.
Again, too many links all at once can backfire, which I learned the hard way.
Email me privately at aikidoroll@gmail.com so we can take this discussion offline
Thanks,
Dan
Interesting article. I have been using 1WL since September last year with amazing results and also know of other site owners who’ve used it and I have seen their results increase significantly too.
You should probably review the section about duplicate content because it is not strictly true what you have written, or the system wouldn’t be so successful.
Obviously I don’t want to give the game away by spelling it out here too much, wide open in public like, but 1WL does provide an excellent value for money solution that really works, and also it just gets you better and better results over time as the inbound links it creates have very good longevity, they are of real value to both the blog they are on and to your site, so it’s a win win situation really.
All the best
Roger
Roger, 1wL works for some niches that have little good SEO competition, but fact remains that the links aren’t quality and it IS true about the duplicate content,
Why else would you be offered a spinner right from the back office?
Why does LinkVana oly accept unique content and 1 link/article?
Why does BackLink solutions only allow 1 backlink/per article AND a spinner?
Why does Unique Article Wizard offer usage of a spinner?
Why doesn’t EZA article allow for 3 outgoing links per article and only accepts unique content, supposedly?
Fact remains that dupe content is not highly regarded and posting a lot of it is somewhat damaging to a site, as I have tested by re-publishing my EzineArticles articles on several of my sites, then getting backlinks to them to see how they fare in SERPs.
If you only use 1WL and it works for you, great, but I use BackLink solutions now and am copying and pasting my way to higher SERPs, and to PR2-4 blogs whose snippets/backlinks are actually showing up in the search engines, and as pingback comments, and as incoming links in Google blog search widget, unlike other linking services I’ve used. And it takes me about 1 hour a week to generate backlinks to all my sites with it.
UPDATE: I just checked one of my blogs and saw the pingbacks AND incoming links in the blogSearch widget from using BLS, which is very impressive… so then I went to see how tht particular URL was doing and when I typed in the keywords, one of the sites that was backlinking to me is actually out-ranking my site, temporarily, but I went from page 3 to page 1 in a few days. Now that’s an awesome thing to see that you’ll never see with any 1WL backlinks…
Remember, there’s powerful links of which you only need a few, and crappy links of which you will needs hundreds if not thousands